MINDHUNTER

The team cracks under pressure from an in-house review. Holden's bold style elicits a confession but puts his career, relationships and health at risk.

Then he'll realize we're working overtime. We mean business.

What have we here?

I'm gonna ask him questions that may make you uncomfortable.

Wait while the agents come in. Bring back smokes or anything?

John, my boss, he was great about hiring me,

Come on.

You saw Lisa waving to you a couple of times.

She ask you about your work, your day, where you live?

- You want to take a sample? - Can we do that?

We think we know why, and we understand.

- Jesus, no. - Yeah.

By interviewing Richard Speck, and Jerry Brudos, and Ed Kemper.

But you were convinced he was guilty before you went in.

- While you were drunk. - Celebrating.

They won't understand how you're connected to this case.

and she has been instrumental in developing a program...

'cause it'll never show you the experience of the victim."

so it won't reflect poorly on the FBI?

You were so sweet.

You've been in a shitty mood the last ten times we've been together,

Uh, you're listed as medical proxy to one of our patients.

They've got the tape.

Yes.

whose decision was it to bring us only the redacted transcript?

How about calling him a shit stain?

The story was picked up by the AP.

What's this behavioral profiling you're touting?

Because of the extreme planning that went into your crimes.

On a cold, humid morning you can see it steam.

I don't know.

Are we friends, Holden?

Holden's methods during a disturbing interview with mass murderer Richard Speck create dissension among the team and kick off an internal FBI probe.

"Crime of the Century."

I'll fuck you so hard,

- You better know my name. - I beg your pardon?

May I see your... tattoo?

You flashed a knife at her, pushed your way inside,

How the hell did you even fuck eight women the same night?

Hid it in a drawer in a guards' desk. Right under their fucking nose.

And all them girls, I lost count.

Audio is never gonna do it justice.

I can choke down the bile, manufacture empathy,

how old he was when he got that tattoo.

One drives around with ropes, knives, plastic bags in his trunk

if I want to spend the rest of my life...

We have a daughter who's still in high school,

I don't know what to tell you.

Contact the case lead, see if he'll send us more info.

It's possible he knew when she was coming home from school.

Are they expecting to hear back?

The outfit is flashy.

- Hm? - The trees.

Sexually and socially competent, if indecisive.

Wait, you said he might be ashamed for what he's done.

Understood. That's not really the charge I'm worried about.

- Nothing that I can think of. - Good.

by the Illinois Department of Corrections on behalf of an inmate

Speak his language?

Should be everything.

It's a prison interview, not Watergate.

We can't like everything we do. We're talking to serial killers.

- You told them there was no tape. - Well, I was, um...

We're not going to speak about this anymore. We will protect the unit.

Bill and Wendy interview candidates for a fourth member of the team. Holden is intrigued by complaints about a school principal's odd habit.

My job at the FBI is to study people who exhibit disturbing behavior.

Sorry, guys.

The idea is that you stop your friend, who is a disturbing kid,

Okay.

that is odd.

he'd ask her to take something else off?

- Put ice in it. - Gross.

Both of them sure like these.

- She said that, but I never saw them. - Did you follow up at all?

They're all gunning to talk to lust murderers.

Leather boring tools.

Funny how all these girls you met wanted that.

Really?

Oh. Now that's interesting.

Jane Weber was choked from behind.

So do you think that with Kathy Schmidt it was consensual,

Day three, he takes the stand.

Gregg's done a lot of work in the field, he's a talented agent.

The guys call me "The Padre" and they come to confession at my desk.

It's another to sit three feet away

All right, let me give you an example.

Did you think that "piggy goes to market" stuff was weird?

It sounds like it goes back further than that.

Mrs. Clark, could you make a list of parents and teachers

They were fighting, they got sent to Roger's office.

- I don't know. - It's an odd choice.

I am telling you this for your own good.

- You really have to leave me alone. - I will. I promise.

- Sounds interesting. - It is interesting.

We're not talking about my clothes again.

My partner's making up a questionnaire for them

With all due respect,

I'd tell him to take his fucking hands off my kid,

Okay. Listen, thanks for your time.

Wendy takes a career risk to relocate and join the team full time. Holden and Bill find it harder to keep the emotional intensity of work at bay.

Our goal is to eventually publish a statistical analysis

Holden, maybe you can find it.

Big Ed with his big mouth.

Excuse me. I believe I'm in the middle seat.

This could be in Playboy, easy.

We called around. There's no evidence they were in touch.

Well, you don't have to talk about your family. You can make one up.

your wife said you approached her dressed as a woman.

- What about the shoes? - What shoes?

She still doesn't get it. We caught up on the phone.

And you're forgetting something.

So when did it start, your interest in women's shoes?

Psychological help.

Heels?

Jesus, Nancy. I don't know what to say.

He pulled that bullshit about Kemper, so we used the same tactic.

If you want to teach a class, go back to Boston.

Yeah, but when you buy a club, you have the club.

make sure he understands there's nothing wrong.

Why is it in the house at all?

- Well, to be honest, he's not much fun. - He's not much fun?!

she was on her way to lunch with her mom.

Brudos said that he was attracted to women's shoes before all of that.

But... what the fuck did I even know?

How dedicated you are, how disciplined.

Wendy considers an offer. Holden and Bill struggle to communicate the meaning of their findings to the judicial system in the baffling Altoona case.

I'd rather you didn't tell Tench or Ford

Fourteen stab wounds in the torso with a kitchen knife.

Benji was a total mess.

That's enough. Now my client's also a victim here.

- So you killed her? - I didn't kill her.

I didn't see Benji kill her.

Hey. Nancy made me promise to invite you to dinner.

- I'm Nancy. - I'm Bill.

It's okay. I used to have these when I was a kid.

But we haven't been able to find out where he was before then.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm doing it well enough

which means he'll end up offering a plea deal

"Stressors"?

All three of them are responsible for her death.

And that is a big problem for Benjamin.

I think that he seemed very intent on blaming Benjamin,

when we were straddling Road School.

You look tired.

Intellectually, these people have reached their limits.

I think that's a bad idea.

Babe, focus on the thing that will make your career.

- I do that here. - What do you mean by that?

Goffman saw a connection

Must we indulge in your melodrama?

Frank confirmed all that.

You classify our evidence as circumstantial?

the first time Frank was in the hospital.

When Wendy explained it to him, he seemed to understand.

I'm in.

And then eventually, he escalated to kidnapping and murder.

- For what? - For my office.

It's one generous bedroom and a newly refurbished kitchenette.

What made you choose this part of Virginia,

Holden and Bill return to a perplexing case in Pennsylvania where a set of clues leading in multiple directions leaves no shortage of suspects.

- Can I get you some coffee? - Sure.

Uh, we saw things the same way.

especially since he knew we were coming.

She teased him a lot. He pretended not to enjoy it, but I know he did.

He wouldn't leave the house.

He became friends with Frank.

But he got them their own place when they married.

wrapped around her golden triangle.

It felt hostile.

Disfiguring her reproductive organs was a way to neutralize her.

Fine, but if it went too far,

Great for concentration, keeps you totally focused.

- Women crying to men always works. - Men to men?

- Ten? - Holden... I'm not doing this.

So I got to thinking, why did Mrs. Barnwright

I don't really keep up with that stuff.

Mrs. Barnwright said you looked out for him.

- I was seeing some other girl, too. - You a ladies man?

I don't know. It was, uh... typical, I guess.

Stop saying it like that.

I thought Benji had done pretty good for himself.

Beverly Jean was a beautiful woman. She wouldn't do that.

Oh, my God!

Say she is looking for someone, does that make her easy?

if it is Benjamin or some other boyfriend who freaked out on her,

Would you mind sitting on your own bed, please?

Not that you're single, but it's your first child

Mom would come home tired, wasn't really up for dealing with kids.

We gave him money for a security deposit. Signed his lease.

Well, uh...

So you said Frank was not home the night Beverly Jean disappeared?

My mind started racing, I was worried something had happened to Benji.

And then I see Beverly Jean in the bathtub.

Frank came home early the next morning.

Bill and Holden consult with Dr. Wendy Carr to begin classifying their subjects. They receive surprising news.

Find a cure.

They sent me to Florida. This, uh...

Do I, though?

I catch up to her. I get her in a headlock.

What are you planning to do? Why me?"

Yeah, it's hard on a human being.

No, I get it. You got a lot going on. It's a lot of pressure.

Because she doesn't want to.

if I heard her voice,

Maybe he was like this before.

I think what Agent Tench means is...

So what if Rissell doesn't mean to kill anyone at this point?

Yep.

Be with my real father? You bet.

I mean, everybody fucking hated my cousin.

See how he's deliberately trying not to look at us?

So, between when she was murdered on Wednesday

There was an incision. From her...

- Okay? - Sure.

These crimes rarely cross racial lines.

He'll be back.

A colleague of ours, a psychologist.

These men from the FBI would like to talk to you. That all right?

I thought it was a store mannequin or something.

It ain't much. I lit up a few fires

Mrs. Moran?

Sorry if I got off a little shaky there at the start.

I think you're both right. I mean, it's self-pity, absolutely.

So could we say "systematic" and "anti-systematic"?

- It's not important who was driving. - I agree.

Yes, talking to people outside the FBI

Have a nice day.

Dr. Wendy Carr joins Holden and Tench in their first success, when their insights lead to an arrest.

Since when do you care about any of that?

And sure, these men all have wives, kids, dogs, goldfish,

That's a relief.

Whoa. We appreciate the vote of confidence,

Have you shown your Kemper notes to your department head?

You know why it took me nearly a decade to publish my book?

so we don't have to do Road School to get to him.

A sequence killer?

Name was Laura Conway.

I don't understand the sexual assault part.

They lash out. Especially when it comes to women.

I don't know. What kind of fucking question is that?

I don't have a dog.

Yeah. You let your mom treat you like that?

You'd never hurt your old lady...

Listen, everybody in this room remembers when they were a little kid,

I just wanted to say thank you for having this get-together.

and I'm going a little further each time.

Then it builds, the feeling?

but since I was locked up from age 15 to 21

She's laying there reading a paperback,

Because I couldn't shut her up.

- Take another slice. - Thank you.

Right under her nose, man. I couldn't help myself.

Which makes you a pretty great FBI agent.

and create a plan so if we want to talk to Shepard...

Hey, Kenneth, can I ask you something?

Fuckbag?

- No? - You know what I mean.

It was a little dull to be honest. I was grading papers, but...

Holden interviews the eerily articulate murderer Ed Kemper, but his research provokes negative feedback at the Bureau.

If you'd said to me, "I want to become a Beach Boy, take up surfing",

has sexual intercourse with the corpses.

Losers. Losers are drawn to authority.

If you're gonna go in, you need to go in stone goddamn cold,

Hey, boy, bring that shit over here!

- Um... I'm good. - You want an egg salad sandwich?

My mom spoke to the cops to get my psychiatric record expunged.

What kind of trap are you talking about?

Your...

What are you writing down?

very misunderstood. She was a lot like me.

So what are you not telling me?

it certainly seems to me like you had your own unusual...

Animal cunning.

Okay.

I spent five years as a brick agent

I do. I really fucking do.

Do you think you developed a dislike for young women as a result?

He's telling you what he's guessed you want to hear.

moved to Sacramento to be closer to the grandkids.

I don't dress like a whore.

I remember moonlight.

He knifes the dog because the dog is yapping its head off.

Bring him in again.

Well, that's another life sentence right there.

Not exactly The Brady Bunch.

Well, they were both very controlling, aggressive, matriarchal women.

She said, "For seven years."

"Two goons," his exact words.

No, actually, it's something I would really enjoy.

- Hi. - Hi.

It is our job to electrocute them. How long has this been going on?

In 1977, frustrated FBI hostage negotiator Holden Ford finds an unlikely ally in veteran agent Bill Tench and begins studying a new class of murderer.

Hi, Mrs. Miller? Don't get out.

We need more information. Let's see if we can get him on the line.

You did everything by the book.

Non-threatening communication.

they didn't know their assailant.

that have occurred in the past decade and a half.

Special Agent Holden Ford.

I can't believe they're here. They used to play PJ's in Corktown.

Finger my pussy, I'll give you a blow job.

They understand their corner of the world,

and recommend funding for you to audit a few classes,

Well, you should be.

I'm sorry, are you trying to recruit me?

Let me call and see what they say.

Somebody demands the impossible, you can't just shoot him.

They can go over the soundness of the psychology. That's their thing.

What does that mean?

Just take it slow. You'll get there in the end.

Don't be shy.

A person is murdered. Not sexually assaulted, not robbed.

We ask, "What happened? Why did it happen that way?"

- By Freud? - So this is about sex?

We used to do this experiment in social psychology.

and an armed robber, and was incarcerated for over 20 years,

We did.

They wrote "pigs" on the wall in their victims' blood.

When I left Los Angeles, I thought I'd gone far enough.

Nothing people won't do.

I don't have fingerprints, shoe prints,

- Well, maybe we should. - Why?